Home
Nevius on Having a Full-Time Paid Pastor PDF Print E-mail
Tuesday, 09 June 2009 08:58
In planting a new church, how should the missionary provide for the continuing care of the congregation after he is gone?  Or, to put it another way, how do you know when you are “done” planting a church?  In not a small number of cases, missionaries in Thailand have established churches with a modus operandi something like this:  evangelize and disciple until there is a sufficient number of Christian believers such that there are people to lead various elements of Sunday worship service and there are more or less sufficient finances to rent a building and call a full-time Bible school educated Thai pastor to lead the church.  If these elements are mostly in place, then the church is considered planted and the missionary feels free to move on to a new location.  Often there are some kind of appointed or elected church leaders which may or may not resemble Biblical elders.  In many cases, I have seen a church committee which makes decisions about finances and church activities substituted for the Biblical model of elders, namely mature Christian men who govern and shepherd the congregation, bearing spiritual responsibility for the souls of the people.  

If a missionary gets the number of believers up to level where the church won’t dissolve, and then calls a native pastor (whom a small church often times can barely pay), is this really the best model for establishing healthy Biblical churches?   While I am fully convinced of the Biblical foundation and high desirability of calling a full-time paid pastor, I believe that we are skipping a step here in emphasizing having a full-time paid pastor instead of having several elders who shepherd the church together while keeping their secular employments.  Of course, I am hardly the first one to have given some thought to this subject.  Here is what John Nevius had to say over one hundred years ago:

“Our mission churches under the charge of elders are possessed of a Scriptural organization without the addition of a paid pastor, such as is found in most of our western churches; and the appointing of such a pastor might prove injurious rather than advantageous.

In enlarging on this point I will quote the language of Dr. Kellogg, formerly professor in the Theological Seminary at Allegheny, Pa. It has special weight as coming from one who is not only a highly esteemed theological teacher in our Church, but has been for years a missionary in India and has the advantage of large experience and observation of mission matters.  The quotations are taken from an article in the “Catholic Presbyterian,” November, 1879, page 347.  Dr. Kellogg says:
    ‘We fear there is much reason to think that our missionaries have often been in too much haste to introduce the one-man pastorate of the European and American churches, and that the growth of a church bearing the true individual character of the particular people or race has been thereby seriously retarded.  Fixed in the conviction that the primitive form of Church government was Presbyterian, men have apparently jumped to the conclusion that therefore the present form of Presbyterianism is the primitive and Apostolic arrangement - a point, we may venture to affirm, which has not yet been established, nor is likely soon to be.  Under this belief they have not only felt that if they established churches they must give them a Presbyterian form of government - in which they have been right - but that it must be that particular form of development of Presbyterian principles which has obtained among ourselves; wherein, as it seems to us, they have been as clearly wrong.  For to take any one of our full grown ecclesiastical systems and attempt to set it up bodily in our heathen fields, regardless of the widely differing conditions of the case, is, we submit, a great mistake... In too many instances, the course pursued has proved a mistake by its practical working...  

“But, it is asked with some confidence, What is the missionary to do?  Shall we leave the young church without a pastor?  We ask in reply, Where in the New Testament is there any intimation that the Apostles ordained pastors, in the modern sense of that word, over the churches which they formed?  We read over and again of their ordaining “elders” in every church, and that, having done so, they left them and went elsewhere.  Where is there the slightest hint that, at this early period, any one from among these elders was singled out and appointed by Paul to a position like that of the modern minister or pastor of a church, or that until such an officer was found they did not dare to leave the church?” (John Nevius, The Planting and Development of Missionary Churches, Monadnock Press, Hancock New Hampshire, 2003, p.73-74)

Having quoted the above from Nevius, some may wonder if I am against churches having pastors.  The answer is no.  I am fully supportive of churches having pastors at the appropriate stage of the church’s development.  If a church has elders already and desires that one of those elders devote himself more fully to teaching the Word of God, and the congregation has the ability to provide a salary to free that elder up to allow him to do so, then great.  However, if you have a small, poor congregation that is lacking elders, then getting elders should be a much higher priority than finding a pastor.  This may take more time, energy, and prayer than finding a Bible school graduate from the outside who can come in and be pastor but it will provide better for the long term health of the church precisely because if follows the apostolic pattern of appointing elders in every church (Titus 1:5)

Comments (5)

Subscribe to this comment's feed
Nevius is right!
0
Karl, you say, "While I am fully convinced of the Biblical foundation and high desirability of calling a full-time paid pastor..." I am really interested to know what Bible it is that you read that gives you this "Biblical" foundation. I've studied mine and I can find not a single reference to the "calling" of a full-time paid pastor. In fact the word "pastor" only appears once in the entire NT of my Bible - in Ephesians 4:11 - and even there, it is in the plural and it refers to gifting and function, not an office to which a man is 'called' or 'appointed' or even ordained, and certainly not paid for.

In your previous "Nevius" blogs you quote Nevius as an authority and a man with practical experience, who bases what he says on sound Biblical principles and doctrine, not business management or some "radical new sociological strategy", making him a man worthy to be listened to. His advice, you said, "is hemmed in ahead and behind by Scriptural principles" and yet here you're willing to reject his very sound advice and teaching! Nevius is 100% correct in his observation that there is no biblical evidence for the ordaining of pastors.


Nick Bekker , June 10, 2009 | url
Your position?
0
I was going to question your "convinced of the Biblical foundation of calling a full-time paid pastor", but as I read on, saw that your position is perhaps not so black-and-white on this matter?
Peter Passchier , June 10, 2009 | url
Teaching Elders in the Bible
Karl
Hi Nick, Peter,
The issue as I see it is indeed not a black-and-white question of “pastor or no pastor?” but rather a matter of first things first and all things in their proper time. The institution of the pastorate in the modern development of it goes beyond the basic minimums that we see in Scripture. Having a pastor is not wrong per se, but having a pastor can be wrong for a certain stage of development in a church’s life. Having a pastor instead of elders is also wrong. The apostolic priority is upon elders and then something akin to a pastor may be appropriate at some point.

There is indeed a Biblical foundation for having a full-time paid pastor but not a Biblical requirement. If we want to look at the Biblical foundation or Biblical principles upon which a church might be justified in having a pastor, we need to look at what Paul says about elders. The issue of “pastor” and “elders” are intimately connected. There is no special clergy class in the church that is separate from the office of elder. Paul said that elders were to be appointed in all the churches (Tit 1:5) and one of the qualifications was “able to teach” (1 Tim 3:2). Apparently there were some elders who preached and taught more more than others, as Paul says, “Let the elders who rule well be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in preaching and teaching.” (1 Tim 5:17). Some some elders taught more than others. Some probably have more of an interest and gift in teaching than others although all elders need to be able to teach to a certain degree. Paul says that believers should honor those who rule well, especially those who labor in preaching and teaching. How is it that they should be honored? Paul continues, “For the Scripture says, “You shall not muzzle an ox when it treads out the grain,” and, “The laborer deserves his wages.” Do not admit a charge against an elder except don the evidence of two or three witnesses.” (1 Tim 5:18-19). The two forms of honor that Paul names specifically is monetary support and being careful not to jump to conclusions too quickly when someone accuses an elder of wrong doing. So, in the New Testament churches, it seems that some elders taught more than others and that giving monetary support to some elders was recommended by Paul, based on his understanding of the Old Testament and the words of Jesus. So, based on what Paul says, we could say that in the New Testament churches all the elders ruled and shepherded, but some took an additional burden of teaching. If a church wants to help a particular elder devote more time to teaching for the benefit of the whole congregation, it seems in line with Biblical principles to provide monetary support for that man. We might call that man a “teaching elder” to indicate that he teaches more than the other elders. Now in the development of the church over the years, the name “pastor” and other traditions have been added on to these basic Biblical foundations. Those developments over the course of church history can be debated as to helpfulness or appropriacy but that is another issue. My point here is that there is Scriptural foundation for the modern pastorate but that the further developments and traditions beyond the Biblical minimum need to be carefully examined for appropriacy given local circumstances. Nevius is not against having a pastor per se but is concerned that the modern Western form of the thing had been unthinkingly imported into new mission churches in China without discerning between Biblical principle and later developments. In so many words, Nevius says first things first. Elders first and then we’ll see about teaching elders (with or without remuneration) at some later date, as is appropriate and helpful given local conditions.
Karl , June 10, 2009 | url
...
0
Hey Karl

The first thing to bear in mind when reading from (and quoting) 1 and 2 Timothy and Titus, is that these letters were not written to churches. They were written by Paul to his apostolic co-workers (so, for example, in these letters the body metaphor is absent and there is little emphasis on mutual ministry). When Paul talks about leaders, he does so in the context of gifts, and leaders are understood to gain recognition by the example they set rather than by any position they held.

What we have in these texts are the essential qualities of a true overseer, not a list of qualifications for an office that one can check off when appointing an elder/overseer. These qualities can be summarized as spiritual character (godliness) and faithfulness (responsibility). Paul's lists were to serve as guidelines for Timothy and Titus in helping them identify and affirm overseers in the churches in which they worked.

These texts talk about a function within the church and not an office or a position to be filled. Paul doesn't call an overseer an office bearer, but a "noble task" (1 Tim 3:1) When Paul commends double honor to those elders who "guide well" and who "labor" in teaching (1 Tim 5:17 NKJV), he is using functional language - he is referring to the function of the overseer and not an office or a position in the church. Paul talks about leadership in the church in terms of verbs, not nouns, because leadership is a function not an office.

Paul is talking about elders and their qualities as spiritual, gifted, leaders in the church. He is describing a function within the church. To argue that this provides a Biblical foundation for the office of full-time paid pastor, an office or vacancy that can be filled by a person who applies and has the right theological degree, is erroneous.

Also to bear in mind when arguing that there is a Biblical basis for a full-time paid pastor, is that throughout the NT the apostles always established plural oversight within the churches they planted. Whenever we read of the elders, the word is in the plural. Not a single church in the first century had a single leader. The notion of having a single pastor is completley at odds with the New Testament. There is no hint anywhere in the NT of a person who stands at the helm of a local church, directs its affairs, preaches to it every Sunday, conducts its baptisms, represents it in the world, officiates its Communion, blesses civic events, marries the living and buries the dead - all things that the modern pastor gets paid to do!

There is no scriptural foundation for the modern pastorate.
Nick Bekker , June 11, 2009 | url
Role of elder
0
Fascinating to follow your discussion on leadership and the position/office of a modern "western" pastor. Elder rule (in the plural) should not be difficult to prove since it is found in various Biblical texts. Also, 1 Cor 9:14 is a helpful in your discussion, "...those who preach the gospel should get their living from it." This precedent is seen in the O.T. as well with the levites/priests. Paul did indeed make tents when it was necessary, but preferred the freedom to minister that financial support afforded him. In Thailand a common scenario is a bi-vocational "elder" who gets some renumeration from the church, but also has an occupation as well.
Larry Dinkins , June 20, 2009

Write comment

You must be logged in to post a comment. Please register if you do not have an account yet.

busy
 

Search dahlfred.com

Search Dahlfred.com

Webdahlfred.com
Orchids Banner